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#23 2025-04-30 Interview 12:24

Dual-Use or Double Risk: AI Between Civil and Military

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Ole Behrens-Carlsson

Geschäftsführer, Nortal

Key Takeaways

  • Dual-Use Approach: Technologies should fundamentally be designed for both civilian and security-relevant areas
  • Cyber-Physical Systems: AI-controlled physical systems become key technologies for critical infrastructures
  • People Transfer: Knowledge transfer works best through people, not through institutional structures
  • Innovation Chains: Germany needs better linkage of research, transfer and commercialization
  • Stability Factor: Long-term funding crucial, political fluctuations destroy structures quickly

Summary

Prof. Dr. Oliver Niggemann from HSU Hamburg provides insights into cyber-physical systems and dual-use technologies. He researches AI for technical systems like cars, ships and trains. Germany needs more continuous innovation chains from research to commercialization. Personal permeability between science and industry is missing. Knowledge transfer works best through people. Stable funding and international cooperation become more important.
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